Traveling on our own in Austria. Salzburg, Stum, Innsbruck

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We are planning to spend 2 days in Innsbruck and 3 days in Salzburg, and then move to Vienna. Podskite plz, please, is it worth renting a place in Innsbruck for 2 days, and then move to Salzburg, or can I immediately rent a place in Salzburg, and from him to leave in the morning by train to Innsbruck, and return in the evening? Suggest from your experience.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Eleria ” 09 Feb 2016, 12:24

Are you without a car at all? Or are you still considering it? It’s just that with a car there is soooo much to see between. And if without a car, what can you see in Innsbruck itself for 2 full days (and Salzburg for 3)?

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

BlackDen ” 09 Feb 2016, 12:41

Innsbruck was very nice, slept there 1 night, it seemed extremely short. My advice – sleep at least 2 nights in Salzburg and Innsbruck. Although both there lodging, to put it mildly, not cheap (were in December 2014 before Christmas). And the road to Innsbruck is beautiful – it’s in a valley and the Alps surround it.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Viscount.m ” 09 Feb 2016, 17:29

Dana88 wrote (a) 09 Feb 2016, 06:18: We plan to dedicate 2 days to see Innsbruck and 3 days to Salzburg,

I don’t know about Salzburg, but Innsbruck 2 days is very much something to do, even without a car. Mast si: 1. The old center with the town hall tower. 2. Hofkirche with folk art museum there as well. 3.In good weather we can take the funicular to the top of the mountain. On the way back you can climb the alpenzoo. 3. Hofgarten Park and the rich villa quarter behind it. 4. Wilten quarter with basilica and monastery. In the neighborhood there is also a museum of bells – highly recommended. There is also a streetcar to Eagles. If you have time, very interesting walk. 5. Ambras Castle. You can go there by bass tourist. And in general the bass tourist in Innsbruck is good, there is an audio guide in Russian. 6. You can go to Hall-in-Tyrol by city bus, it is very picturesque. Innsbruck card is a must. There are 3-4 more museums, in which I was not. There is nothing to do in Hofburg Knowing Innsbruck and not knowing Salzburg, I would change the number of days on them.

Going to Innsbruck from Salzburg is expensive and pointless. Overnight stays are unambiguous.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Dana88 ” 09 Feb 2016, 19:15

Dana88 wrote (a) 09 Feb 2016, 06:18: We plan to dedicate 2 days to see Innsbruck and 3 days to Salzburg,

I don’t know about Salzburg, but Innsbruck 2 days is very much something to do, even without a car. Mast si: 1. The old center with the town hall tower. 2. Hofkirche with folk art museum there as well. 3.In good weather we can take the funicular to the top of the mountain. On the way back you can climb the alpenzoo. 3. Hofgarten Park and the rich villa quarter behind it. 4. Wilten quarter with basilica and monastery. In the neighborhood there is also a museum of bells – highly recommended. There is also a streetcar to Eagles. If you have time, very interesting walk. 5. Ambras Castle. You can go there by bass tourist. And in general the bass tourist in Innsbruck is good, there is an audio guide in Russian. 6. You can go to Hall-in-Tyrol by city bus, it is very picturesque. Innsbruck card is a must. There are 3-4 more museums, in which I was not. There is nothing to do in Hofburg Knowing Innsbruck and not knowing Salzburg, I would change the number of days on them.

Going to Innsbruck from Salzburg is expensive and pointless. Overnight stays are unambiguous.

From your experience tell me – is it worth renting a car to see it all or not?

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Viscount.m ” 09 Feb 2016, 19:53

You don’t need a car in Innsbruck itself. First of all the old center is quite small and you can even walk to Wilten. Secondly there is good public transport, runs like clockwork. Thirdly, take the Innnsbruck Card for 2 or 3 days. In addition to museums, it includes a fare on any public transport, including the bass tourist. And even in Hall on it you can, and the cable car. It justifies itself literally a day. Here’s a drive to/from Salzburg – maybe. There are a lot of interesting things on the way – the same Hall, Rattenberg, Lake Achensee with an old steam train, Kufstein.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Iulia ” 10 Feb 2016, 17:34

Sorry, I’m going to cut in. Do you remember how much the bus fare is to Hall-in-Tyrol? Going for the day, so we won’t be buying the Innsbruck Card.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Viscount.m ” 10 Feb 2016, 19:23

Iulia wrote(a) on 10 Feb 2016, 17:34: Do you remember how much the bus fare is to Hall-in-Tyrol?

Hmm, I don’t know. We had a special case We were dropped off by car there and took the train back. My daughter bought the tickets. I think it was about 6 euros, or it was 6 euros to Enbach. I don’t remember. I daresay there’s a regular city bus to Hull. It’s about 7 or 10 km. And maybe the fare is the same as the regular bus. The public transport in Innsbruck costs 2.5 euros per trip, and the driver is all 2.8. At the same time, a day pass costs 5 euros. You can buy it at any vending machine/parkomat (they are combined) at almost any stop. I think that the tourist information center you will not bypass, and in it you can find out all the details. Z.U. If only for a day to Innsbruck – is it worth going to Hull? It’s good, no doubt. But, the bell museum in Innsbruck gave us no less pleasure. And it’s rarely visited by any of our people.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Iulia ” 10 Feb 2016, 20:35

Viscount.m wrote: Z.I. If just for a day to Innsbruck – is it worth going to Hall? It’s good, no argument there. But, the bell museum in Innsbruck gave us just as much pleasure. And it is rarely visited by any of our people.

So far I’m just figuring out what to see, I wanted to go to Hull, because I love small, old town, but we’ll see how it all turns out. I’ll take note of the museum, I see it’s not too far from the train station, thanks!

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Aluf ” 10 Feb 2016, 22:09

Viscount.m wrote(a) 09 Feb 2016, 19:53: In Innsbruck itself you don’t need a car. First of all the old center is quite small and you can even walk to Wilten. Secondly there is good public transport, runs like clockwork. Thirdly, take the Innnsbruck Card for 2 or 3 days. In addition to museums, it includes a fare on any public transport, including the bass tourist. And even in Hall on it you can, and the cable car. It justifies itself literally a day. Here’s a drive to/from Salzburg – maybe. There’s a lot of interesting stuff along the way – the same Hall, Rattenberg, Lake Aachensee with the old steam train, Kufstein.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Viscount.m ” 11 Feb 2016, 19:10

To make a long story short . Achensee is just a beautiful mountain lake. There are beaches, there is a funicular, there are mountain trekking. Weak tourists are interested in a trip from Enbach to Aachensee on an old steam train with gear. Beautiful road, interesting scenery and antiquity. The train is authentic, made in 1889 The way back can already seem a bit boring. You can still take a boat on the lake. We did not sail. We had a heat of about 40, so we soaked on the beach. Rattenberg is the most beautiful old town of glassblowers. That is, first there were silver mines, and then came the glassblowers. If Hall is interesting as a town with confusing streets and some romance. Rattenberg is interesting with its embankment, old houses and glassblowers. There is a beautiful baroque church there, and underneath it is the grotto of Mary. There’s no explanation for that. There are ruins of an ancient fortress. And there is a museum of ancient life in a house built in the 13th century. The museum almost the most liked, I advise you not to miss it. In general, such places should be shown, not told. I almost finished the story about that trip. but not on this forum. I will throw you in my personal, there are all there, see for yourself.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

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Viscount.m wrote(a) 09 Feb 2016, 17:29: Knowing Innsbruck and not knowing Salzburg, I would change the number of days for them

Dana88 wrote(a) 09 Feb 2016, 19:15: Is it worth renting a car to see it all or not?

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

konsts ” 11 Feb 2016, 23:05

I don’t know, I liked the Hofburg.

Hofburg Imperial Palace. It was once home to the rulers of Tyrol. The history of the palace began in the Middle Ages, when Archduke Sigismund “the Rich”, Count of Tyrol, ordered the construction of a medieval fortress. His successor, Emperor Maximilian I, enlarged it. It was Maria Theresia (1740-1780) who had it rebuilt into a court chateau in the Rococo style in Vienna. It survives to this day in its present form. Maria Theresa visited Innsbruck only twice: in 1739 for a passage and in 1765 for the wedding of her son Leopold II to the Spanish princess Maria Louisa. The wedding was overshadowed by the death of her husband, Franz Stephan of Lorraine. By order of the empress, the room in which he died was converted into a chapel. Today the Hofburg is a museum, so you can visit the palace’s magnificent rooms: the Giant (ceremonial) hall with portraits of Maria Theresa’s children and her husband, the personal imperial chambers, the chapel, etc. Next to the palace is the court park Hofgarten. ———————– Also in the center of the city there is an art museum Ferdinandeum -museumStrasse 15.

The Ferdinandeum was opened in 1823 and thanks to its unique collections it immediately became very popular. The Ferdinandeum is home to exhibits of art, archaeology, history, science and music from the Stone Age to the present day – a period of about 30,000 years! Among the exhibits are masterpieces of Romanesque and Gothic painting and sculpture, including works by Rembrandt, Salvador Dali, Bruegel, Klimt and other famous artists. A large part of the exposition is devoted to Tyrol: in Ferdinandeum you can see ancient folios, folk costumes, musical instruments, household items and furniture, as well as visit a real bell-casting workshop. The museum is in a beautiful building with a facade in the unusual Innsbruck Renaissance style. ————————— I also recommend a visit to St. Jacob’s Cathedral (Dom zu St. Jakob).

This powerful cathedral with its two towers has become an integral part of the city’s views. It is northwest of the Hofburg Palace, on the site of a former Gothic church. It is one of the finest examples of Baroque temple architecture. Construction of the cathedral lasted from 1717 to 1724. Inside, the masterpiece “Our Lady” by Lucas Cranach the Elder, ceiling frescoes and stucco by the Azam brothers are worth noting. In the cathedral, the “Ringing of the Bells for Peace” (carillon) can be heard. Among other sights, don’t miss the tombstone of Archduke Maximilian III, Grand Master of the Teutonic Order by C. Gras (1620).

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

Viscount.m ” 12 Feb 2016, 09:22

Yes, the museums and the pulpit are worth a visit, the pulpit is a must. By the way – the square in front of it in my opinion is the coziest in Innsbruck. And it’s nice to have lunch there. And the Hofburg. I do not know. I was interested only in the big hall. The rest is empty and modest. Maybe it’s after Ambras. The collection is obviously richer there.

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Re: Trip to Innsbruck and Salzburg

konsts ” 12 Feb 2016, 09:53

Absolutely. Can’t argue here . His collection would be even richer if the most valuable pieces hadn’t migrated from Ambras to the Vienna Museum of Art History. The latter is also a must-see if Vienna is on the trip.

De, especially since it fits in very well with the walking itinerary. Golden Roof and Center – Hofkirche – Hofburg – Jacob’s Cathedral – Hafelekarspitz elevator (stations and train in futuristic style). From there you can also walk to Ferdinandeum. And then take a tourist bus to Ambras. This is how we made our itinerary.

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To make it in 72 hours! Or “Three days in Austria!”

Munich is a great city. It has everything – historical sites like the beautiful Marienplatz and the Hofbräuhaus beer bar made famous by Hitler’s first propaganda speeches to brand-name Apple stores and Europe’s best tourist equipment stores (Schuster, Globetrotter, Sportscheck). But what if you have already seen the city and still have three days to spare? Go to Austria, which is not far from here!

Here’s a little photo story about what you can do in the short 72 hours!

Our trip started in Munich at 5 pm, and since most campgrounds close at ten, we didn’t have much time to find a place for our first overnight stay in Austria. The situation was complicated by the fact that we made the final decision to go to Austria just a day or two before the trip itself and we didn’t have any reservations. We decided that we just go to Austria, and there to navigate the situation!

We crossed the border of Germany and Austria was simple: the usual barrier (open) and a sign like “Welcome to Austria”. In the village we passed about 500 meters away from the border we saw a Raiffeisen Bank sign and from that moment it was clear that we were in Austria! The place is very picturesque. We were surrounded by beautiful forested mountains, alternating here and there with pastures, meadows and small villages. How nice that I finally made it to the Alps in the summer. It’s very nice here.

Our main goal for the first evening was to get as close to the real mountains as possible, so we could go mountain biking the next day (my dream!) or go on some hike! Familiar advised to go to Zell am See, supposedly there is a good infrastructure for mountain biking!

After the first two campsites we looked at had no tent available (peak season. ) we thought we would have to sleep in the car! But luckily at the campsite Woferlgut, which is only five hundred meters south of the lake Zell am See, in a place called Fishhorn, there was a huge, completely empty lawn to set up your tents.

It’s not cheap. If you sleep in your own tent – 35 euros per night. But in any case, it’s half the price of staying in a hotel. Why not save money? Yes, and sleep in a tent good that you sleep in the fresh air, as in a real hike, rather than in a hotel room, which no matter how to air, all wrong! Moreover, the campsite is great – in addition to a full-fledged restaurant, it has a hot shower, washing machines, and even a small pool! The time was already half past eleven. All of the nearby supermarkets were closed. We ate dinner in the camping restaurant, pitched our tent, and went to bed!

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Innsbruck

In the morning met us with rain, and it became clear that a trip to the mountains on a bike is out of the question. After sitting over the maps, we decided that since the weather doesn’t let us do outdoor, it’s time to take a radial car trip to Innsbruck. The drive from Zell am See to Innsbruck is about 3 hours one way.

The whole round trip with a walk through the historical center of Innsbruck, a visit to the historical museum and the Golden Roof Museum (the main attraction of the city) took us the entire first full day of our trip. The road is very beautiful, passes through beautiful valleys and then rises serpentine through the mountain passes. A rest for the eyes!

Innsbruck is one of the largest cities in Austria, known for hosting the Winter Olympics in 1964 and 1976. In the past, however, the city was much more important, being the capital of the state of Tyrol.

When we arrived in Innsbruck, it was pouring rain. After leaving the car in the typical Austrian and German paid underground parking lot (about 1 euro per hour), we went to the Tyrol History Museum, which is located right at the entrance to the Old Town.

The interiors of the houses of wealthy inhabitants of Tyrol are very well represented in the museum – the furniture, decorative elements, everything is of very high quality. I can say with confidence that it’s one of the best museums I’ve been to.

After seeing the items in the museum, I understood how difficult the life of people was only 300-500 years ago!

Hovkirche church is one of the must-see places to visit in Innsbruck. The church contains the symbolic tomb of the famous Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor, and 28 huge bronze statues of knights and kings, his ancestors.

Grossglockner

After spending the second night at the campsite near Zell am See, we decided it was time to change our position and try to get as close as possible to Austria’s highest peak, the 3,798-meter-high Grossglockner. The road to it starts right from Zell am See and is called the Grossglockner High Mountain Route. Right out of the car window you can see amazing views of waterfalls falling from snow-covered alpine peaks! Keep in mind that there is a toll on the road. A single car ride costs 24 euros.

The road serpentines rapidly gaining height, and in less than an hour, overtaking amateur cyclists we reach the highest point of the road – the pass Wilfried-Haslauer-Haus, height of 2400 meters.

The pass is very crowded. While the Austrians traveling by car are taking pictures against the snow-covered peaks, we try to find a map of the area in order to decide on the next route. In a small souvenir shop we ask to see an excellent tourist map with marked hiking trails on it. We look at several options for hiking in the immediate vicinity of Grossglockner mountain and return the map. Wit hasn’t stopped anyone yet!

On the other side of the pass the weather is much better. The road traverses the slope with beautiful curves. The sun is shining, there are even sheep grazing here and there! Idyllic. Here and there you can see stations of ropeways. Probably a full house here in winter!

Sounds like Norway, doesn’t it? But no, this is the Alps!

Only 15 minutes drive from the pass we reach a place called Glocknerhaus at an altitude of 2131 meters. Here you can start the hike. It is only 55 kilometers to this place from Zellam-See, and you can cover this distance in an hour. But that’s if you drive fast, without stopping at the breathtaking viewpoints. We drove much longer. Leaving from Zellam-See 9:30 am, we reached this place only by 11:30.

In principle, we could drive another 2.5 kilometers to the tourist center “Kaiser Franz Josefs Hohe Visitors’ Centre”, where all this beautiful road ends, leave the car there and start our hike downhill. But the weather improved unexpectedly and we decided to leave the car here, at the parking place at Glotterhaus, then to descend to the lake Stausee Margaritze and to get to the lake Sandersee to the shelter Kaiser-Franz-Josefs-Hohe on the height of 2369 meters below!

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Estimated time for passing this route – 3 – 4 hours of slow walking. The trail is equipped with signs. In good weather you do not need any special equipment to pass this trail! It is enough to have a windbreaker, a warm jacket, a supply of water, a snickers and strong sneakers.

At the beginning the trail goes down to the lower lake and runs along two dams. It’s very beautiful!

The ascent to the second lake is among alpine grasses and sparse woods. I like such places in the mountains most of all. There are not many trees now and they do not cover majestic mountains. But at the same time there is life here – here and there birds are singing and sometimes marmots appear from ambush!

In the middle of the trail, between two lakes, the trail goes to a beautiful vantage point from which you can see both lakes, the glacier and (if you are lucky with the weather) the very top of Grossglockner!

Actually, the second (sandy) lake of Sandersee, the trail manually bypasses the shore, but tourists who want to tickle their nerves (and check the immunity?) cross it in shallow water!

We could not resist it either! The water is icy. Creepy. What a treat =).

Where the water retreated bottom is very funny, all covered in fine ripples.

Then the trail goes to the bottom of the glacier Pastrzengletscher, a length of about 9 km. This is the largest glacier in Austria. Here again there are crowds of tourists coming down here on the cable car directly from the Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Hoch.

The view of the Pasterzengletscher Glacier from above.

It’s like a Himalayan sweep.

Actually, the glacier stretches from Johannesberg (3460 m), the top of which is covered by clouds.

It took us 20 minutes to walk up the steep slope to Kaiser-Franz Josef Hoch. The laziest don’t walk up, but wait for the train, which runs once every half an hour! The whole walk took us 3.5 hours of leisurely walking.

There are huge crowds of people on the observation deck up there! How quickly we got tired of people =))) Car museum, mountain nature museum and even a movie theater (. ), located at the end station of the highway – all at the highest level. The Austrians did not lose face again!

One of the first motorcycles in history (500cc, 2 HP, 1903).

Scheme of the hiking route at Grossglockner. In pink is our route from the Gloknerhaus refuge (2132 m) through the Stausee Margaritze and Sandersee lakes to the Kaiser-Franz-Josefs-Hohe refuge (2369 m). The highest peak on the map is Mount Grossglockner, the highest point in Austria.

A walk between the lakes, a tour of museums, a snack in a cafe, a visit to the huge souvenir store in Franz-Josefs-Hohe and the subsequent half-hour descent to our car – it all took us seven hours!

One day in Salzburg

It was already getting dark, and we decided that it was high time to go to Salzburg! We called my wife in Moscow, and she quickly booked us a room. This, I understand, is the technology of the XXI century! It is possible to travel and make plans on the fly!

In Salzburg we stayed at the Hotel Kolpinghaus Salzburg. Very decent place, there is a parking for the car, and inexpensive. The only thing – to get to the center by bus, to stop – 10 minutes on foot.

Salzburg is the fourth largest city in Austria. He really is very beautiful (the central historic part of g. Salzburg entered in the UNESCO World Heritage List) and apparently very wealthy. Mozart was born here, there are a lot of interesting castles and fortresses, and even the horses are equipped properly!

The famous, never conquered in history, and one of the largest castles in Europe is Hohensalzburg.

Our third, Salzburg day, turned out to be as rainy as the previous days. Thanks to this we visited seven (SEVEN. ) museums in one day! I’ve never been so smart. Of the things that impressed – a visit to the house where Mozart was born. It was very nice!

That’s such a trip we had. If you really want to, even for three days you can learn the history, nature and life of the whole, albeit small, country. I can say that Austria left the most pleasant impression, and here I will try to come back for sure!

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